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Nothing on governing structure and individuals with influence?

I don't have much to add, came to wp to find out more, and there is nothing. This may be more important of other details. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.59.106.25 (talk) 01:39, 26 July 2014‎

AllSides and Associated Press bias.

Allsides is criticized by Wikipedia as sometimes paying attention to public assessment (by voting) concerning the bias of particular sources. About that, Allsides has a disclaimer for those who do vote that reads in part "Community votes alone don't determine our ratings, but are valuable feedback and can prompt us to do more research." However, in the case of the Associated Press (AP), given its huge impact on other media, Allsides has done a bias determination that is rather more extensive and has recently changed its rating of AP from "center" to "lean left" citing enough specific cases that Allsides has medium confidence in that rating ^[1]. AP can be wildly inaccurate and inflammatory, my own issue with them is their historical propensity for calling Nazi concentration camps, "Polish Concentration Camps." ^[2] This was so inflammatory that the Polish Government criminalized such accusations, which law has now been repealed ^[3]. Given the historical support of AP for the Nazis ^[4] and their recent tendency to say nothing good about Trump and nothing bad about Biden, AP for me stands for "Anti-Polish." I consider AP biased, often inflammatory and unreliable. 207.47.175.199 (talk) 15:07, 18 March 2023 (UTC) 207.47.175.199 (talk) 15:07, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia is a far-left circle jerk. Don't expect factual information to be presented as it makes the communist trash look bad. 2600:1700:3350:37E0:29B9:3551:7949:ACD9 (talk) 01:38, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I actually added to the article that the AP has a slight left-lean bias, based on the Allsides report, as well as from AdFontes^[1] (which says that AP has a middle bias, but does put them on the left side) and MediaBias/FactCheck^[2]. I didn't mention an article from Biasly^[3] which also says that AP is somewhat liberal. It got pulled down, though. I asked the person who pulled it why they did so and I am now waiting for a response. There are a few more articles that discuss the AP's political bias, such as this one, this one, this one, this one, and this one, but these are opinion pieces so they don't meet Wikipedia's standards. There is also this poll from YouGov,^[4] which says that people think that the AP has a lean-left bias. There is also this research article^[5] that says that the AP has a lean-left bias on the economy and the environment. PotatoKugel (talk) 19:25, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The references used [1], with the exception of AllSides, are unreliable. Because the AllSides rating has a high confidence rating, it can be used. It might be best to indicate that the rating is a change from previous years.

I'm unfamiliar with biasly.com, am unaware of any discussions about it, and don't believe it is reliable after skimming through their website.

I'm not sure that the survey deserves mention, and we should be extremely careful not to mix or compare survey results from analysis like that of AllSides.

I wouldn't use the IEEE article because I can't find their methodology for categorizing news sources. Can someone find it?

As for the other articles you linked, I'm unclear if any of them are more than opinion pieces, so they shouldn't be used. --Hipal (talk) 21:28, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

What do you think about this source: https://mediabiasdetector.seas.upenn.edu/ PotatoKugel (talk) 03:18, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any discussion or use of it at all beyond this.

I'm not clear how we could use it. --Hipal (talk) 17:46, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Thank you very much! PotatoKugel (talk) 17:49, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I hadn't realised there was a discussion on this, but I've removed this again. Allsides isn't a reliable source for things like this, it's been discussed multiple times at WP:Reliable Sources/Noticeboard (check the archives). -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 22:13, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, how are you?

From the summary of the discussion by the archives and the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources it appears that Allsides can be used when they have a High confidence rating. They have a high confidence rating here.

In addition, the Allsides review board rated AP News with a left-leaning bias before factoring in the results of the blind bias survey (which, from what I saw in the archives previously mentioned, was the potential problem with using Allsides).

As such, it seems to me that Allsides should be usable in this context. PotatoKugel (talk) 03:16, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Allsides, and most other such sites, are just parroting common US opinions. It's no different from saying people in the US think this is left leaning, but this is an international project not one dedicated to US opinion. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 10:42, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with that point. The line should be amended to say that AP's US political coverage has a US left-leaning bias. PotatoKugel (talk) 18:54, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What do you think about the following line: "While AP's US political coverage used to be in the center, it has recently moved to the left and now leans left (on the US political spectrum), according to AllSides"? Also, is "(on the US political spectrum)" redundant when talking about political bias of coverage of US politics? PotatoKugel (talk) 04:17, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So AP used to offer an extremely biased narrative (centrism) and now simply shifted its biases. Nothing lost, nothing gained. There is nothing neutral regarding centrism. One of my favorite Greek historians noted that a centrist is a reluctant right-winger, still eager to attack the leftists. Dimadick (talk) 05:46, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that is a matter of opinion. I think many people value "balanced" news, which you can argue is centrist.

But conceding the point, what do you think about, "AP's US political coverage leans left (on the US political spectrum), according to AllSides"? PotatoKugel (talk) 05:52, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As this is just Allsides opinion on the matter I don't think it's even due inclusion. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 10:32, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't seen any sources that disagree about this.

In addition, I have seen other articles where one or two sources were mentioned despite there being a half dozen sources that disagreed, such as this one. PotatoKugel (talk) 13:26, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not that any source disagrees with it, but rather that it's Allsides opinion. I'm sure if your dug round you could find some other similar sites, but they all suffer the same problem. It's an opinion of whoever is running the site. That other stuff exists isn't a good argument for why this should be included. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 13:55, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Allsides is a reliable source, not some opinion piece. Every piece Allsides writes is "their opinion". I am unsure what you mean.

I did look around and all I saw were articles saying that the AP has moved to the left. None of them were reliable so I would not put them into the article. The point is, though, that circumstantial evidence suggests that Allsides' opinion is based.

Obviously, if you did find a reliable article that contests this it should certainly be put into this article but I have not seen one yet.

My point by referencing that other article was that there was a large an active discussion about this exact point with many editors. The conclusion was to put the minority sources in the article. I am simply saying that it seems that these many editors would agree that a reliable minority source can and should be put into an article. PotatoKugel (talk) 14:07, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.allsides.com/news-source/associated-press-media-bias

[2] ttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-storozynski-poland-commentary-idINKBN1FM2OP

[3] ttps://www.cbc.ca/news/world/poland-vote-holocaust-speech-law-1.4724088

[4] ttps://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-associated-press-became-part-nazi-propaganda-machine-180958629/

[5] ttps://adfontesmedia.com/ap-bias-and-reliability/

[6] ttps://mediabiasfactcheck.com/associated-press/

[7] ttps://www.biasly.com/sources/ap-news-bias-rating/

[8] ttps://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/49552-trust-in-media-2024-which-news-outlets-americans-trust

[9] ttps://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/10109099

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