User talk:Cosal
Line Breaks
[edit]I see you have again removed all the line breaks from Henri Lafond. I will restore them. See User:Aymatth2#Line breaks. My vision and coordination are poor. You may simulate the effect by holding the mouse in your non-dominant hand and wearing eyeglasses lightly smeared with Vaseline. I often rearrange sentences while starting an article until the most natural sequence emerges. It is easier to do so if each sentence ends with a single line break. I click in the white space to the right of the sentence, drag the mouse to the left margin to select it, then cut and paste using the keyboard. It is much harder to position the cursor precisely at a point within the text, then drag to another point within the text. I am not the only one with poor vision and coordination. This is why the Manual of Style says "a single line break may follow a sentence, which may help some editors." Single line breaks make it easier for physically handicapped people to edit text, and are invisible to readers. Thanks, Aymatth2 (talk) 17:21, 25 January 2018 (UTC) I ask that you do not remove them.
Ateliers et Chantiers de Saint-Nazaire Penhoët
[edit]I've reverted your move of this article as my sources use this name consistently. Why do you believe otherwise? Even the French article on the company refers to a book with this name [1]--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:40, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
- Well, I have just extensively researched the history of this shipyard (in French sources), and the name of the town Saint-Nazaire was NOT part of the name of the shipyard. --Cosal (talk) 18:48, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
- Saint-Nazaire was part of the predecessor shipyard's name that operated from 1862 to about 1870 under the management of John Scott. You may wish to see, for instance, in the French Wiki-article about the Compagnie générale transatlantique, this statement and the attendant source citation: Les deux entrepreneurs font l'acquisition de terres près de Saint-Nazaire et y fondent les Chantiers et Ateliers de Saint-Nazaire (mieux connus ensuite sous le nom de Chantiers de Penhoët). (Charles Offrey, Cette grande dame que fut la Transat, MDV, 1994, 207 p. (ISBN 9782910821005)). Greetings, --Cosal (talk) 19:02, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
- John Jordan & Jean Moulin in their French Destroyers: Torpilleurs d'Escadre & Contre-Torpilleurs 1922–1956 and Jordan and Robert Dumas in their French Battleships 1922–1956 consistently refer to the company with the name that I gave above. Jordan is fluent in French while Moulin and Dumas are two of the most prominent French naval historians around. I find it hard to believe that they'd screw up the company name when it had to be all over the original source documents which they'd accessed for the books. Right now I'm wondering if the CGT was responsible for the passenger ships and AC St-Nazaire Penhoët for the warships with some sort of weird cross-ownership or subsidiary relationship between them because Jordan and Dumas say that the battleship Strasbourg was launched from the same slipway that had built Normandie.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:04, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
I will try to look again into this matter in the next few days. --Cosal (talk) 22:58, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- The issue of the name aside, the shipyard began in 1862 as an operation of Charles C. Scott of Greenock and his son John, under contract to the CGT for which they built four liners. I think the yard was called "Scott et Cie." They declared bankrupcy in 1866, when CGT due to its own liquidity problems could/did not pay them, and closed down in 1870. CGT then reopened the yard in 1881 as a wholly owned subsidiary and ran it until 1900, when it went public under the name "Societe Anonyme des Chantiers et Ateliers de Saint-Nazaire (Penhoët)" - note the parentheses! - but with CGT still as majority owner. In 1955 it merged with the adjacent "Ateliers et Chantiers de la Loire" into "Chantiers de l'Atlantique". Throughout this time it was, so it appears, generally referred to as "Chantiers de Penhoët", and until 1900 this may in fact have been its actual designation (but I am not certain about that). They did indeed build the big liners "Paris" (1921), "Île de France" (1927) and "Normandie" (1935), and in addition they built in cooperation with the neighboring Ateliers et Chantiers de la Loire, established in 1882, the battleships "Strasbourg" and the unfinished "Jean Bart". Greetings, --Cosal (talk) 23:20, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, that's very helpful. That also would explain Offley's comment above that Chantiers de Penhoët was a popular name.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:15, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
ArbCom 2019 election voter message
[edit] | Hello! Voting in the 2019 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 on Monday, 2 December 2019. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.
The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate in the 2019 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add |
ArbCom 2020 Elections voter message
[edit] | Hello! Voting in the 2020 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 7 December 2020. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.
The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate in the 2020 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add |
ArbCom 2021 Elections voter message
[edit] | Hello! Voting in the 2021 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 6 December 2021. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.
The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate in the 2021 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add |
ArbCom 2022 Elections voter message
[edit]Hello! Voting in the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 12 December 2022. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.
The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.
If you wish to participate in the 2022 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:26, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
ArbCom 2023 Elections voter message
[edit]Hello! Voting in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 11 December 2023. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.
The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.
If you wish to participate in the 2023 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:21, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
I have sent you a note about a page you started
[edit]Hi Cosal. Thank you for your work on Elmira Sultanovna Ibraimova. Another editor, SunDawn, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:
Good day! Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia by writing this article. I have marked the article as reviewed. Have a wonderful and blessed day for you and your family!
To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|SunDawn}}. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)
✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 01:02, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
The article Ermek Sultanovich Ibraimov has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Insufficient WP:SIGCOV in secondary, independent, reliable sources to demonstrate notability under WP:GNG, WP:NBIO, or WP:NPOL.
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:15, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message
[edit]Hello! Voting in the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 2 December 2024. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.
The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.
If you wish to participate in the 2024 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:08, 19 November 2024 (UTC)